TomA
I just finished putting a set on mine. I'd call them 12". Happy with them so far. I don't know if their really back 2" but they sit a couple of inches higher than stock which lets you rotate them back a little. I'm 6'1" and either way they let me sit up a little straighter which is what I wanted. I bought a set of the HD reduced reach also and tried them both while I was changing the stock ones out. The HD does come back 2" but didn't seem any higher. I went with the ergos. I do have the HD bars I'll be selling. I'll post them in a different thread.